# Spindle vs DeWalt **URL:** \ **Category:** X-Carve\ **Created:** [March 4, 2018, 10:02pm UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/spindle-vs-dewalt/51892 "2018-03-04T22:02:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![JoeEndriukaitis](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex009/user_avatar/community.inventables.com/joeendriukaitis/32/82825_2.png) [@JoeEndriukaitis](https://community.inventables.com/u/JoeEndriukaitis)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2018, 10:02pm UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/spindle-vs-dewalt/51892/1 "2018-03-04T22:02:22Z")
Done some looking around here and haven’t been able to really come to a clear conclusion on which way to go. My main concern is noise level. I understand the 48v Spindle provides a much quieter solution, which is what I’d like but am I giving up anything by going with the spindle vs the DeWalt? What are the advantages of either? I do remember reading about some using the spindle like the slower speeds which are more ideal when cutting aluminum. I may be cutting some aluminum stock at some point, so this is also something I’m interested in, but again, what do I lose not having the DeWalt. Thanks in advance for any help, sorry if this was discussed somewhere else in the forum. Thought I went pretty far down the rabbit hole but you never know. ---
**Author:** ![PatrickAScohy](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex009/user_avatar/community.inventables.com/patrickascohy/32/50428_2.png) [@PatrickAScohy](https://community.inventables.com/u/PatrickAScohy)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2018, 4:01am UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/spindle-vs-dewalt/51892/3 "2018-03-05T04:01:32Z")
I use the DeWalt 611 and it is pretty quiet to me. The sound of the bit cutting the wood is louder. ---
**Author:** ![JeremyHanks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/67e7ee/32.png) [@JeremyHanks](https://community.inventables.com/u/JeremyHanks)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2018, 6:08am UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/spindle-vs-dewalt/51892/4 "2018-03-05T06:08:19Z")
My makita is barely louder than my previous 48v spindle and as mentioned, the sound of cutting material is generally going to be louder than the router motor itself (unless you crank up the speed as they can get horrendously loud when run at the top end of speed) I, for one, strongly suggest a router over the spindle. ---
**Author:** ![JeremyHanks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/67e7ee/32.png) [@JeremyHanks](https://community.inventables.com/u/JeremyHanks)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2018, 6:09am UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/spindle-vs-dewalt/51892/5 "2018-03-05T06:09:38Z")
The makita also drops to 10k rpm, so substantially slower than the min of 16k for the dewalt ---
**Author:** ![PaulAlfaro](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex009/user_avatar/community.inventables.com/paulalfaro/32/71869_2.png) [@PaulAlfaro](https://community.inventables.com/u/PaulAlfaro)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2018, 6:40am UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/spindle-vs-dewalt/51892/6 "2018-03-05T06:40:56Z")
Id consider the Makita as mentioned above. Slower RPM is great if youll be diving into aluminum. ---
**Author:** ![HaldorLonningdal](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex009/user_avatar/community.inventables.com/haldorlonningdal/32/72377_2.png) [@HaldorLonningdal](https://community.inventables.com/u/HaldorLonningdal)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2018, 7:09am UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/spindle-vs-dewalt/51892/7 "2018-03-05T07:09:20Z")
> [@JoeEndriukaitis](#): > > I understand the 48v Spindle provides a much quieter solution, which is what I’d like but am I giving up anything by going with the spindle vs the DeWalt? Are you talking about the Quiet Spindle (48V) from Inventables or a different, more specific CNC spindle? If its the Quiet one the Dewalt will give you two things you’d want: 1 - More power, if needed 2 - RPM governor, the RPM will be maintained and it wont bog down. If you can score the Makita for about the same price as for the Dewalt, go Makita as its minimum RPM is 10k vs the Dewalt 16k. This affect cut noise - but feed&speeds of the cut will also have an audible effect. Apparently the brushes of the Makita seem to last longer than Dewalts. ---
**Author:** ![RobertBeattie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a587f6/32.png) [@RobertBeattie](https://community.inventables.com/u/RobertBeattie)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2018, 1:42pm UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/spindle-vs-dewalt/51892/10 "2018-03-05T13:42:34Z")
The loudest thing in my garage is my dustcollector / shopvac. ---
**Author:** ![JoeEndriukaitis](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex009/user_avatar/community.inventables.com/joeendriukaitis/32/82825_2.png) [@JoeEndriukaitis](https://community.inventables.com/u/JoeEndriukaitis)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2018, 1:46pm UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/spindle-vs-dewalt/51892/11 "2018-03-05T13:46:22Z")
Yeah, I’ve read a lot about that too. Shopping for solutions there too. Found a Craftsman shop vac rated very well in regards to noise level. ---
**Author:** ![JoeEndriukaitis](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex009/user_avatar/community.inventables.com/joeendriukaitis/32/82825_2.png) [@JoeEndriukaitis](https://community.inventables.com/u/JoeEndriukaitis)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2018, 1:47pm UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/spindle-vs-dewalt/51892/12 "2018-03-05T13:47:44Z")
Yeah Phil, I plan to build an enclosure too. I’m probably being over cautious, but I just don’t want any complaints from the Girlfriend. 😂 ---
**Author:** ![JoeEndriukaitis](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex009/user_avatar/community.inventables.com/joeendriukaitis/32/82825_2.png) [@JoeEndriukaitis](https://community.inventables.com/u/JoeEndriukaitis)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2018, 1:48pm UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/spindle-vs-dewalt/51892/13 "2018-03-05T13:48:47Z")
Totally off topic, I suck at these forums… how do you quote someone’s post? Like you did up there Phil. ---
**Author:** ![RobertBeattie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a587f6/32.png) [@RobertBeattie](https://community.inventables.com/u/RobertBeattie)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2018, 1:51pm UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/spindle-vs-dewalt/51892/14 "2018-03-05T13:51:42Z")
Select the text that you want to post, and the "Quote box pops up ---
**Author:** ![JoeEndriukaitis](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex009/user_avatar/community.inventables.com/joeendriukaitis/32/82825_2.png) [@JoeEndriukaitis](https://community.inventables.com/u/JoeEndriukaitis)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2018, 2:06pm UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/spindle-vs-dewalt/51892/16 "2018-03-05T14:06:21Z")
> [@RobertBeattie](#): > > Select the text that you want to post, and the "Quote box pops up Got it!! ---
**Author:** ![Clyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Clyde](https://community.inventables.com/u/Clyde)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2018, 12:29am UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/spindle-vs-dewalt/51892/17 "2018-03-06T00:29:29Z")
Another router that doesn’t get the mention it deserves is the Hitachi M12VC@ 2/14 horse power. it also has a low rpm and is only slightly louder than the makita at 11,000 rpm. and its available for around $125.00’s with a fixed base. ---
**Author:** ![JoeEndriukaitis](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex009/user_avatar/community.inventables.com/joeendriukaitis/32/82825_2.png) [@JoeEndriukaitis](https://community.inventables.com/u/JoeEndriukaitis)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2018, 12:49am UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/spindle-vs-dewalt/51892/18 "2018-03-06T00:49:12Z")
> [@Clyde](#): > > Another router that doesn’t get the mention it deserves is the Hitachi M12VC@ 2/14 horse power. What mount? Are the mounts universal? ---
**Author:** ![Clyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Clyde](https://community.inventables.com/u/Clyde)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2018, 12:54am UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/spindle-vs-dewalt/51892/19 "2018-03-06T00:54:56Z")
There are many mounts available. I got mine from Zen Bot but any holder that fits a 83 mm spindle will work. ---
**Author:** ![Clyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Clyde](https://community.inventables.com/u/Clyde)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2018, 12:59am UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/spindle-vs-dewalt/51892/20 "2018-03-06T00:59:42Z")
In my posting it shoud have said 2 1/4 horse power. The mount I got from Zen Bot was around thiry five dollars and came with a back plate that I didn’t use ---
**Author:** ![CurtisCummings](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex009/user_avatar/community.inventables.com/curtiscummings/32/51964_2.png) [@CurtisCummings](https://community.inventables.com/u/CurtisCummings)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2018, 6:30pm UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/spindle-vs-dewalt/51892/21 "2018-03-06T18:30:38Z")
I ran a 800w water cooled spindle on my other machine right next to the XC. I actually bought it to cut the aluminum parts I needed to upgrade the XC. And in my experience the dewalt is a jet engine (even set at 1) compared to the spindle. The only thing I could hear was the bit on the material. That being said. A water cooled spindle with VFD has its own set of requirements. = water pump, bucket for water, water lines, EMI from the VFD etc… An air cooled spindle would be much simpler but the noise becomes more comparable to the Dewalt. ---
**Author:** ![JoeEndriukaitis](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex009/user_avatar/community.inventables.com/joeendriukaitis/32/82825_2.png) [@JoeEndriukaitis](https://community.inventables.com/u/JoeEndriukaitis)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2018, 6:53pm UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/spindle-vs-dewalt/51892/22 "2018-03-06T18:53:19Z")
> [@CurtisCummings](#): > > I ran a 800w water cooled spindle on my other machine right next to the XC. I actually bought it to cut the aluminum parts I needed to upgrade the XC. And in my experience the dewalt is a jet engine (even set at 1) compared to the spindle. The only thing I could hear was the bit on the material. That being said. A water cooled spindle with VFD has its own set of requirements. = water pump, bucket for water, water lines, EMI from the VFD etc… An air cooled spindle would be much simpler but the noise becomes more comparable to the Dewalt. Thanks Curtis! not sure I’m ready to get that much into it at this point. An enclosure is where I’ll start along with some creative scheduling of my cuts will have to do for now.😁 ---
**Author:** ![JoeEndriukaitis](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex009/user_avatar/community.inventables.com/joeendriukaitis/32/82825_2.png) [@JoeEndriukaitis](https://community.inventables.com/u/JoeEndriukaitis)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2018, 6:53pm UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/spindle-vs-dewalt/51892/23 "2018-03-06T18:53:59Z")
> [@Clyde](#): > > There are many mounts available. I got mine from Zen Bot but any holder that fits a 83 mm spindle will work. I’ll take a look at that, thanks Clyde! ---
**Author:** ![Shane\_M](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex009/user_avatar/community.inventables.com/shane_m/32/45007_2.png) [@Shane\_M](https://community.inventables.com/u/Shane_M)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2018, 7:46pm UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/spindle-vs-dewalt/51892/24 "2018-03-06T19:46:15Z")
For me the primary advantage of the DeWalt was redundancy. If the DeWalt fails you can have a new one for $125 as fast as you van drive to the big box store. If your spindle fails you’re going to be down for quite a bit longer.