# Possibly a faster way? New guy here
**URL:** https://community.inventables.com/t/possibly-a-faster-way-new-guy-here/103856
**Category:** X-Carve
**Created:** [November 9, 2020, 2:38am UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/possibly-a-faster-way-new-guy-here/103856 "2020-11-09T02:38:37Z")
**Posts on this page:** 6
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### Author:  [@AntonioCantarero](https://community.inventables.com/u/AntonioCantarero)
#### Post date: [November 9, 2020, 2:38am UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/possibly-a-faster-way-new-guy-here/103856/1 "2020-11-09T02:38:37Z")
Hey All! First timer over here and I’m trying to make a tray but it says it will take 45 minutes to complete. I figured with the right bit this would only take a few minutes. Any help on the type of bit would be great. At the moment I’m using a 90 degree Vbit on a normal xcarve machine. (Dewalt 611 on speed 1)
I have attached a picture of what I’m currently cutting.
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### Author:  [@WayneHall](https://community.inventables.com/u/WayneHall)
#### Post date: [November 9, 2020, 3:20am UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/possibly-a-faster-way-new-guy-here/103856/2 "2020-11-09T03:20:39Z")
You can use a 1/8" upcut bit or if you have a 1/4" you can use it. The vbit is more of a detail style bit. They are not really for milling out a large pocket altough it can be done but is time consuming.
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### Author:  [@AntonioCantarero](https://community.inventables.com/u/AntonioCantarero)
#### Post date: [November 9, 2020, 3:38am UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/possibly-a-faster-way-new-guy-here/103856/3 "2020-11-09T03:38:15Z")
Do you know the name of this bit and it it works with easel? Sorry for the bad picture, I saw it on a Facebook ad
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### Author:  [@DavidHovis](https://community.inventables.com/u/DavidHovis)
#### Post date: [November 9, 2020, 3:43am UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/possibly-a-faster-way-new-guy-here/103856/4 "2020-11-09T03:43:27Z")
Easel can’t generate a design with that bit, unlike what it can do with a v-bit. You can still do simple cuts with a bit like that, but you need to understand how to “trick” Easel into doing what you want. For anything sophisiticated, you would need to use more advanced software like V-Carve or Fusion 360.
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### Author:  [@HenryFeldman](https://community.inventables.com/u/HenryFeldman)
#### Post date: [November 9, 2020, 4:04am UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/possibly-a-faster-way-new-guy-here/103856/5 "2020-11-09T04:04:05Z")
With a 1/4” end mill that should pocket very quickly (assuming that pocket’s corners are \>=1/4”. A 1/4” generally will cut 2x a 1/8, etc (you can of course alter that by the step over percentage). But that should go quite quickly with a 1/4” tool. Then use the v-bit to chamfer the edges (finishing in easel terminology, or a chamfer pass in v-carve/fusion terms)
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### Author:  [@HaldorLonningdal](https://community.inventables.com/u/HaldorLonningdal)
#### Post date: [November 9, 2020, 7:19am UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/possibly-a-faster-way-new-guy-here/103856/6 "2020-11-09T07:19:00Z")
> [@AntonioCantarero](#):
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> Do you know the name of this bit and it it works with easel?
Bowl bit.
Easel do not compute based on bowl / ball geometry (it disregard the radius).
Will still work though but _YOU_ need to be tool path brain 🙂
The main reason for the long estimated cut time with a V-bit is the step-over which is 5% by default. With a fine tip 5% isnt much =\> a lot of tool path.
My take on such a carve, based on Easel:
- Hog out the main pocket with a 1/4" flat bit
- Do a separate contour operation with the V-bit or ballnose bit, fudging the contour size to give me desired chamfer at the desired loaction.