# Nema 23 269 oz **URL:** \ **Category:** Upgrades\ **Created:** [June 25, 2017, 8:38pm UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/nema-23-269-oz/39154 "2017-06-25T20:38:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![MichaelHebert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a5b964/32.png) [@MichaelHebert](https://community.inventables.com/u/MichaelHebert)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2017, 8:38pm UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/nema-23-269-oz/39154/1 "2017-06-25T20:38:46Z")
I want to upgrade my motors on my XCarve. I bought my XCarve last month, so I have the newest model with the 23 140oz motors and the Xcontroller. I’m completely novice on electronics like this, so advice? Tips? How to? TIA ---
**Author:** ![HaldorLonningdal](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex009/user_avatar/community.inventables.com/haldorlonningdal/32/72377_2.png) [@HaldorLonningdal](https://community.inventables.com/u/HaldorLonningdal)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2017, 9:17pm UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/nema-23-269-oz/39154/2 "2017-06-25T21:17:15Z")
What do you intend to gain from a motor upgrade? Not suggesting it have no merit. ---
**Author:** ![MichaelHebert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a5b964/32.png) [@MichaelHebert](https://community.inventables.com/u/MichaelHebert)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2017, 10:57pm UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/nema-23-269-oz/39154/3 "2017-06-25T22:57:35Z")
It’ll be in conjunction with wider belts with more aggressive teeth. I want more speed and rigidity. ---
**Author:** ![ActonGorton](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex009/user_avatar/community.inventables.com/actongorton/32/67331_2.png) [@ActonGorton](https://community.inventables.com/u/ActonGorton)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2017, 11:29pm UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/nema-23-269-oz/39154/4 "2017-06-25T23:29:32Z")
I’m curious about this … not to hijack your thread … could you use the same 140 motors if you replaced the belts with screws and get better results for not much more trouble? ---
**Author:** ![MichaelHebert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a5b964/32.png) [@MichaelHebert](https://community.inventables.com/u/MichaelHebert)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2017, 1:45am UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/nema-23-269-oz/39154/6 "2017-06-26T01:45:54Z")
I was hoping you’d jump in as you’re the de facto guru in my eyes. I have the x controller, are those motors just plug and play or will I need to adjust the potentiometer? Make modifications to the chassis? Who did you go through to purchase them? ---
**Author:** ![MichaelHebert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a5b964/32.png) [@MichaelHebert](https://community.inventables.com/u/MichaelHebert)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2017, 2:47am UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/nema-23-269-oz/39154/9 "2017-06-26T02:47:33Z")
Awesome, thanks so much! I’ll try not to overload you with questions, I love this stuff! ---
**Author:** ![JustinBusby](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex009/user_avatar/community.inventables.com/justinbusby/32/30906_2.png) [@JustinBusby](https://community.inventables.com/u/JustinBusby)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2017, 2:55am UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/nema-23-269-oz/39154/10 "2017-06-26T02:55:58Z")
Stock Z axis doesn’t support the larger steppers. You’d have to extend the Z makerslide at a minimum. ---
**Author:** ![MichaelHebert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a5b964/32.png) [@MichaelHebert](https://community.inventables.com/u/MichaelHebert)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2017, 2:57am UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/nema-23-269-oz/39154/11 "2017-06-26T02:57:10Z")
What do you mean? ---
**Author:** ![JustinBusby](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex009/user_avatar/community.inventables.com/justinbusby/32/30906_2.png) [@JustinBusby](https://community.inventables.com/u/JustinBusby)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2017, 3:00am UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/nema-23-269-oz/39154/12 "2017-06-26T03:00:15Z")
There’s not enough physical distance between the motor mount plate and the X-carriage for the larger motor to mount/fit. ---
**Author:** ![LarryM](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex009/user_avatar/community.inventables.com/larrym/32/51450_2.png) [@LarryM](https://community.inventables.com/u/LarryM)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2017, 3:00am UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/nema-23-269-oz/39154/13 "2017-06-26T03:00:59Z")
The stock NEMA 23s are 51mm long the 269 oz-in are 76mm long. They will not fit in the standard configuration for the Z axis. You can turn them upside down and mount them on top (requires additional changes), ---
**Author:** ![MichaelHebert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a5b964/32.png) [@MichaelHebert](https://community.inventables.com/u/MichaelHebert)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2017, 3:02am UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/nema-23-269-oz/39154/14 "2017-06-26T03:02:58Z")
Gotcha. If I put it in something like this, though? [http://www.ebay.com/itm/Z-AXIS-SLIDE-5-6-TRAVEL-BELT-COUPLED-CNC-ROUTER-3D-PRINTER-PLASMA-Xcarve-/282219827576?epid=888718673&hash=item41b59cd178:g:A8AAAOSw8gVX8omp](http://www.ebay.com/itm/Z-AXIS-SLIDE-5-6-TRAVEL-BELT-COUPLED-CNC-ROUTER-3D-PRINTER-PLASMA-Xcarve-/282219827576?epid=888718673&hash=item41b59cd178:g:A8AAAOSw8gVX8omp) ---
**Author:** ![LarryM](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex009/user_avatar/community.inventables.com/larrym/32/51450_2.png) [@LarryM](https://community.inventables.com/u/LarryM)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2017, 3:07am UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/nema-23-269-oz/39154/15 "2017-06-26T03:07:49Z")
Could work. You would need to check the available space for the stepper motor. Especially since it mentions the Xcarve. It may be designed for the 51mm motor space. ---
**Author:** ![MichaelHebert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a5b964/32.png) [@MichaelHebert](https://community.inventables.com/u/MichaelHebert)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2017, 3:09am UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/nema-23-269-oz/39154/16 "2017-06-26T03:09:57Z")
Cool, well thanks for the heads up! ---
**Author:** ![HaldorLonningdal](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex009/user_avatar/community.inventables.com/haldorlonningdal/32/72377_2.png) [@HaldorLonningdal](https://community.inventables.com/u/HaldorLonningdal)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2017, 6:08am UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/nema-23-269-oz/39154/17 "2017-06-26T06:08:31Z")
You have got good replies above. I have dual 140oz on Y and single 269oz on X & Z using ACME T8 screws - I have tried to hold back the gantry during move but have not been successful 🙂 They are strong! I use a 24V PSU and each stepper is limited to 2.6A. ---
**Author:** ![JeremyJohnstone](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex009/user_avatar/community.inventables.com/jeremyjohnstone/32/32277_2.png) [@JeremyJohnstone](https://community.inventables.com/u/JeremyJohnstone)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2017, 7:57pm UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/nema-23-269-oz/39154/18 "2017-06-26T19:57:06Z")
Here is my build, where I document the larger motors and larger belts (9mm vs 6mm) > [@JJ's X-Carve Build and Projects](https://community.inventables.com/t/jjs-x-carve-build-and-projects/19273): > > This is a work in progress as I build my machine. Summary specifications: This is a 1000 mm x 1000mm X-Carve powered by X-Controller Upgrades: [Dewalt DWP611 router](http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0048EFUV8/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B0048EFUV8&linkCode=as2&tag=jersblo0a7-20&linkId=NQW5ZY2JLWLD3BVV) NEMA 23; 76mm 200+ oz-in [9mm GT2 Belts for X & Y](https://community.inventables.com/t/9mm-belts-parts-and-tools/18583) DIY Wasteboard Y Supports (4 Total, 2 on each rail) Steel bolted between the X rails 10" Z axis extrusion; Allows spindle to be raised higher, and longer length NEMA 23 motors Longer [ACME](http://openbuildspartstore.com/8mm-metric-acme-lead-screw/) rod for longer Z axis; [Anti Back Lash Nut](http://openbuildspartstore.com/anti-backlash-nut-block-for-8mm-metric-acme-lead-screw/)[Optical Homing Switches](https://community.inventables.com/t/jjs-x-carve-build/19273/9) for X,Y,Z - Mounted to Rails… ---
**Author:** ![Clyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Clyde](https://community.inventables.com/u/Clyde)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2017, 11:00pm UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/nema-23-269-oz/39154/19 "2017-06-26T23:00:59Z")
these units will easily handle the 269 oz/in. motors with the x-carve x carriage.