# Inventables event tonight + Live Stream
**URL:** https://community.inventables.com/t/inventables-event-tonight-live-stream/44298
**Category:** Uncategorized
**Created:** [October 24, 2017, 7:10pm UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/inventables-event-tonight-live-stream/44298 "2017-10-24T19:10:18Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@DavidZahm](https://community.inventables.com/u/DavidZahm)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2017, 2:27am UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/inventables-event-tonight-live-stream/44298/25 "2017-10-25T02:27:51Z")
“BIG NEWS WE ARE GOING TO CHARGE YOU MONEY FOR NOTHING” !!! lol
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### Author:  [@WorkinWoods](https://community.inventables.com/u/WorkinWoods)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2017, 2:29am UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/inventables-event-tonight-live-stream/44298/26 "2017-10-25T02:29:22Z")
I mean at some point you have to start charging for your software because that is how it goes lol
software is expensive to make
but imo it was just a premature launch
> [@Expressing my opinion on Easel Pro](https://community.inventables.com/t/expressing-my-opinion-on-easel-pro/44317):
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> I am sorry Inventables you are a great company with a great bunch of people so please don’t take this the wrong way its only constructive criticism Please correct me if I am wrong and make any invalid points here That being said here I go This Easel Pro Launch is PREMATURE from watching the videos and reading the text the only 3 main differences over Easel and Easel Pro are costs money V-engraving Some more texts wait thats it? no export function no local saving function no updated and…
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### Author:  [@DavidZahm](https://community.inventables.com/u/DavidZahm)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2017, 2:30am UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/inventables-event-tonight-live-stream/44298/27 "2017-10-25T02:30:31Z")
sorry i am just disappointed. this changes my mind on adding another machine. this now… well what is coming? sky is the limit now. they lost trust i guess.
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### Author:  [@JDM](https://community.inventables.com/u/JDM)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2017, 2:32am UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/inventables-event-tonight-live-stream/44298/28 "2017-10-25T02:32:17Z")
Are you happy with the machine and Easel as it is at this very moment?
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### Author:  [@WorkinWoods](https://community.inventables.com/u/WorkinWoods)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2017, 2:33am UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/inventables-event-tonight-live-stream/44298/29 "2017-10-25T02:33:59Z")
I would defiantly defiantly not let easel pro sway your choice on buying a second machine
its still a great machine for makers imo
there are all sorts of software but the machine is the heart of your operation
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### Author:  [@JDM](https://community.inventables.com/u/JDM)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2017, 2:36am UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/inventables-event-tonight-live-stream/44298/30 "2017-10-25T02:36:52Z")
I’d definitely give Zach and the team a chance to get everything in place.
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### Author:  [@DavidZahm](https://community.inventables.com/u/DavidZahm)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2017, 2:37am UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/inventables-event-tonight-live-stream/44298/31 "2017-10-25T02:37:06Z")
i like the machine. the software is like windows paint. but I could not buy another machine because there to proud of it and it shows in what they think its worth “software”. I have one other an ox that was cheaper to build and is stronger. and better software. if the standard is still truly free great but I lost trust there vision has changed since its conception. yes demand dictates charge more if its in high demand. but pro is no were near ready for what there asking not even close.
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### Author:  [@WorkinWoods](https://community.inventables.com/u/WorkinWoods)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2017, 2:50am UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/inventables-event-tonight-live-stream/44298/32 "2017-10-25T02:50:10Z")
you know what I got quoted for software the other day lol
$40,000.00 initial
and then 500.00 month for 1 user lol
software is extremely valuable they have to be proud of there creation
but yeah I agree with you premature
I love to see side by side comparisons of entry level cnc machines and there softwares
like step craft, cncrp, general, shapokeo, laguna, powermatic, and then china machines
I bet x-carve for entry level users brand new users is coming in ahead of most of those with price point and software
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### Author:  [@DavidZahm](https://community.inventables.com/u/DavidZahm)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2017, 2:52am UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/inventables-event-tonight-live-stream/44298/33 "2017-10-25T02:52:37Z")
do more research. that is insane for a price. my other software which is right between easel and v-carve is 59 on time charge. and its great.easel is easy to use drag and drop but it is very very limited. the other that i use takes a little more time to use but once its in there its in there.
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### Author:  [@WorkinWoods](https://community.inventables.com/u/WorkinWoods)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2017, 2:54am UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/inventables-event-tonight-live-stream/44298/34 "2017-10-25T02:54:14Z")
yeah that was for professional high end software with like ocsilating features and such
aka Mastercam
but when you say ox are you referring to openbuilds
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### Author:  [@DavidZahm](https://community.inventables.com/u/DavidZahm)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2017, 2:57am UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/inventables-event-tonight-live-stream/44298/35 "2017-10-25T02:57:04Z")
what makes X-carve good is it cheap sturdy “kinda”. and easy to build. the ox is more of a diy kit 100 of variations.
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### Author:  [@DavidZahm](https://community.inventables.com/u/DavidZahm)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2017, 2:57am UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/inventables-event-tonight-live-stream/44298/36 "2017-10-25T02:57:23Z")
yes and my other software has ocsilating feature.
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### Author:  [@WorkinWoods](https://community.inventables.com/u/WorkinWoods)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2017, 3:00am UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/inventables-event-tonight-live-stream/44298/37 "2017-10-25T03:00:37Z")
what software is that?
is has ocsilating profile cutting?
I would be interested in taking a look that would really preserve the life of my end mills
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### Author:  [@DavidZahm](https://community.inventables.com/u/DavidZahm)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2017, 3:00am UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/inventables-event-tonight-live-stream/44298/38 "2017-10-25T03:00:59Z")
I truly hope that this plan of there works out for them. but I fear it wont. its been a great community.
it only take one guy to destroy something.
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### Author:  [@DavidZahm](https://community.inventables.com/u/DavidZahm)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2017, 3:01am UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/inventables-event-tonight-live-stream/44298/39 "2017-10-25T03:01:16Z")
[http://www.estlcam.com/](http://www.estlcam.com/) it will also plunge at an angle and not just straight in.
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### Author:  [@WorkinWoods](https://community.inventables.com/u/WorkinWoods)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2017, 3:04am UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/inventables-event-tonight-live-stream/44298/40 "2017-10-25T03:04:24Z")
oh ramping in yeah
hmm I will have to look into the ocsilating toolpath but I did not see it in there manual under toolpaths
but thanks
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### Author:  [@JDM](https://community.inventables.com/u/JDM)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2017, 3:07am UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/inventables-event-tonight-live-stream/44298/41 "2017-10-25T03:07:18Z")
I have a license for Estlcam as well and use it for almost all of my .stl paths.
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### Author:  [@WorkinWoods](https://community.inventables.com/u/WorkinWoods)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2017, 3:09am UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/inventables-event-tonight-live-stream/44298/42 "2017-10-25T03:09:47Z")
hey @JDM what do you mean by .stl paths?
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### Author:  [@JustinBusby](https://community.inventables.com/u/JustinBusby)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2017, 3:09am UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/inventables-event-tonight-live-stream/44298/43 "2017-10-25T03:09:57Z")
Not to be rude but how are other software packages relevant to the Inventables live stream from tonight?
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### Author:  [@JDM](https://community.inventables.com/u/JDM)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2017, 3:10am UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/inventables-event-tonight-live-stream/44298/44 "2017-10-25T03:10:55Z")
Just conversation.
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