# Cnc4newbie and y- plate suggestions?
**URL:** https://community.inventables.com/t/cnc4newbie-and-y-plate-suggestions/51525
**Category:** Upgrades
**Created:** [February 27, 2018, 3:28am UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/cnc4newbie-and-y-plate-suggestions/51525 "2018-02-27T03:28:54Z")
**Posts on this page:** 10
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### Author:  [@PeteJensen](https://community.inventables.com/u/PeteJensen)
#### Post date: [February 27, 2018, 3:28am UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/cnc4newbie-and-y-plate-suggestions/51525/1 "2018-02-27T03:28:54Z")
Hi guys I had a few question about the cnc4newbie in conjunction with the Y-axis plates. For those of you that have both upgrades I was wondering if there was an optimal height to raise the Y- Plates from stock.
In other words I don’t want to raise it to tall and then have to use long bit to cut at deck level, on the other hand i want to take advantage whatever z height I can out of it. Obviously there are other factors involved like mounting positions, waste board and such, but is there a sweet spot in there on a general scale or is there enough adjustabilty that its doesn’t matter?
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### Author:  [@JeremySimmons](https://community.inventables.com/u/JeremySimmons)
#### Post date: [February 27, 2018, 4:31am UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/cnc4newbie-and-y-plate-suggestions/51525/2 "2018-02-27T04:31:36Z")
Please Fix your post
It is in a quote block
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### Author:  [@CurtisCummings](https://community.inventables.com/u/CurtisCummings)
#### Post date: [February 27, 2018, 9:56pm UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/cnc4newbie-and-y-plate-suggestions/51525/3 "2018-02-27T21:56:28Z")
Are you cutting your own again? When I cut mine I added 3” of lift. But I still have the microcarve Z. I plan to buy the 8” Z when I finally go newbie. I remember the monster plates you cut before. Did you end up useing them?
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### Author:  [@PeteJensen](https://community.inventables.com/u/PeteJensen)
#### Post date: [February 27, 2018, 10:30pm UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/cnc4newbie-and-y-plate-suggestions/51525/4 "2018-02-27T22:30:34Z")
no, i didn’t and still have them, yeah cutting my own but i think i am just going to have to wait untill i get everything in the mail and mock it up, just ordered all kinds of stuff and wanted to get a jump start before stuff started arriving.
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### Author:  [@CurtisCummings](https://community.inventables.com/u/CurtisCummings)
#### Post date: [February 27, 2018, 10:37pm UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/cnc4newbie-and-y-plate-suggestions/51525/5 "2018-02-27T22:37:36Z")
Upgrade bug got ahold of you huh. Please trouble me with your tale lol. What are you going to do?
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### Author:  [@PeteJensen](https://community.inventables.com/u/PeteJensen)
#### Post date: [February 27, 2018, 10:52pm UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/cnc4newbie-and-y-plate-suggestions/51525/7 "2018-02-27T22:52:21Z")
yep servos, controller (phills), belts, x rail, z-axis, spindle, and some more extrusion to beef it all up, and a bunch of knick-knacks, little bit of a bug lol.
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### Author:  [@JeremySimmons](https://community.inventables.com/u/JeremySimmons)
#### Post date: [March 3, 2018, 4:17am UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/cnc4newbie-and-y-plate-suggestions/51525/8 "2018-03-03T04:17:15Z")
Save yourself time with the plates and belts and buy the screw drive kit from @Phantomm. it’s the best.
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### Author:  [@Phantomm](https://community.inventables.com/u/Phantomm)
#### Post date: [March 3, 2018, 5:30am UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/cnc4newbie-and-y-plate-suggestions/51525/9 "2018-03-03T05:30:04Z")
Simply put, your going to want twice the z travel of your clearance. That way when you do need to do a larger carve you can use really long bits (the size of your clearance) and reach the bottom of the carve. If you lift 2" u will have 4" clearance and you will want 8" travel optimal.
Z First as the weakest link.
Y supports are important for rigidity.
Then Belt upgrade.
Then lift once you have the backbone. Dont lift the y, Lift the x. Lifting the y does not leave you with much in the way of simple y support. But Lifting the X does and you can get some extra travel out of it too.
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### Author:  [@CurtisCummings](https://community.inventables.com/u/CurtisCummings)
#### Post date: [March 3, 2018, 6:24pm UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/cnc4newbie-and-y-plate-suggestions/51525/10 "2018-03-03T18:24:52Z")
> [@Phantomm](#):
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> Dont lift the y, Lift the x. Lifting the y does not leave you with much in the way of simple y support.
You should design a set for the wide MS. I have them on my Y and did my raise there. It’s very solid.
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### Author:  [@PeteJensen](https://community.inventables.com/u/PeteJensen)
#### Post date: [March 4, 2018, 6:43pm UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/cnc4newbie-and-y-plate-suggestions/51525/11 "2018-03-04T18:43:29Z")
Well wish I would have known phantom had those, I already ordered everything for 9mm belting but will surely keep in mind for the future.
I have a complete design I want to go with made up in solidworks for for using the 1 piece x-rails for y axis with a secondary plate, and also a new x plate incorporating dual x-rails for more strength since I’m going with the bigger Hitachi router.
But at this point I can’t afford everything I want to do lol. So at this point I am just doing upgrades that will more then likely stay on it after the redesign.
@Phantomm. Thanks for that info, that is exactly what I wanted. I tried getting that info months ago just didn’t word it the same and got nothing I needed from it haha, so thanks, I appreciate it.