# Another crappy cut **URL:** \ **Category:** Uncategorized\ **Created:** [March 18, 2018, 11:24pm UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/another-crappy-cut/52766 "2018-03-18T23:24:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![PaulRinguette](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/90db22/32.png) [@PaulRinguette](https://community.inventables.com/u/PaulRinguette)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2018, 11:24pm UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/another-crappy-cut/52766/1 "2018-03-18T23:24:05Z")
Rough cut went fine. Ran the detail cut with a 60 degree vbit and crap city. I did a cut yesterday and no issues. What could cause the bit to drag like that? ![20180318_192228](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex009/uploads/inventables/original/3X/d/0/d0eb1a7077106be8c843e0d9cb0b68444aff904d.jpg) ![20180318\_192256|690x388] (upload://7ceqQ36zfU2838OeYFkODGP9LpS.jpg) ![20180318_192247](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex009/uploads/inventables/original/3X/4/c/4c3ec14df933934924267ff224eb82cc3b2c44fb.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![PaulRinguette](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/90db22/32.png) [@PaulRinguette](https://community.inventables.com/u/PaulRinguette)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2018, 11:25pm UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/another-crappy-cut/52766/2 "2018-03-18T23:25:42Z")
Here is the project. I can’t see anything in here. Belts were all tight. Two bad carves in the last 3 days and I’m out over $100 in Oak. > **[Guinness](https://easel.inventables.com/projects/Qzx7phcl350OC-lSS2Z47g)** > > by Paul Ringuette ---
**Author:** ![PaulRinguette](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/90db22/32.png) [@PaulRinguette](https://community.inventables.com/u/PaulRinguette)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2018, 11:27pm UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/another-crappy-cut/52766/3 "2018-03-18T23:27:45Z")
![20180318_192857](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex009/uploads/inventables/original/3X/4/a/4ade6e95c0198a82e03d1cf2041bcea66f190e92.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![NeilFerreri1](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex009/user_avatar/community.inventables.com/neilferreri1/32/84403_2.png) [@NeilFerreri1](https://community.inventables.com/u/NeilFerreri1)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2018, 12:23am UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/another-crappy-cut/52766/4 "2018-03-19T00:23:20Z")
Hey @PaulRinguette, Your project is not shared publicly. Can you export the gcode and share it here? Machine–\>Advanced–\>Generate Gcode–\>Export ---
**Author:** ![PaulRinguette](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/90db22/32.png) [@PaulRinguette](https://community.inventables.com/u/PaulRinguette)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2018, 12:47am UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/another-crappy-cut/52766/5 "2018-03-19T00:47:29Z")
> **[Guinness](https://easel.inventables.com/projects/Qzx7phcl350OC-lSS2Z47g)** > > by Paul Ringuette ---
**Author:** ![NeilFerreri1](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex009/user_avatar/community.inventables.com/neilferreri1/32/84403_2.png) [@NeilFerreri1](https://community.inventables.com/u/NeilFerreri1)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2018, 12:55am UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/another-crappy-cut/52766/6 "2018-03-19T00:55:26Z")
If you export the gCode it’s much easier for me to look at. I don’t have Easel Pro. ---
**Author:** ![BlueLocktite](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex009/user_avatar/community.inventables.com/bluelocktite/32/68346_2.png) [@BlueLocktite](https://community.inventables.com/u/BlueLocktite)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2018, 2:01am UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/another-crappy-cut/52766/7 "2018-03-19T02:01:52Z")
Neil… anyone can open easel and view projects with the Pro functions… only counts as pro when you export or carve ---
**Author:** ![NeilFerreri1](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex009/user_avatar/community.inventables.com/neilferreri1/32/84403_2.png) [@NeilFerreri1](https://community.inventables.com/u/NeilFerreri1)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2018, 2:15am UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/another-crappy-cut/52766/8 "2018-03-19T02:15:15Z")
Thanks @BlueLocktite, I’m aware of that. The Easel toolpath viewer leaves some to be desired. And as crazy as it sounds, I sometimes prefer looking at the actual text commands. For some reason, I don’t want to use my free pro days just to check out a bug. ---
**Author:** ![PaulRinguette](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/90db22/32.png) [@PaulRinguette](https://community.inventables.com/u/PaulRinguette)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2018, 2:30am UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/another-crappy-cut/52766/9 "2018-03-19T02:30:57Z")
How does one export gcode from easel? ---
**Author:** ![KyleBechtold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/46a35a/32.png) [@KyleBechtold](https://community.inventables.com/u/KyleBechtold)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2018, 2:31am UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/another-crappy-cut/52766/10 "2018-03-19T02:31:33Z")
Not to be Mr. Hindsight, but if you have an unknown issue, use cheap wood to test before plowing throw more expensive wood further. ---
**Author:** ![BrandonR\_Parker](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex009/user_avatar/community.inventables.com/brandonr_parker/32/13853_2.png) [@BrandonR\_Parker](https://community.inventables.com/u/BrandonR_Parker)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2018, 2:32am UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/another-crappy-cut/52766/11 "2018-03-19T02:32:18Z")
Looks to me like the Z for the V-Bit was lower than the Z for the roughing bit; either the Z-Zero was off or lost steps by a number of possible means. Just my opinion based on what the images look like. Looks like the final depth that the V-Bit cut to was lower than that of the roughing bit, but the final simulated tool paths for both appear to be on the same plane from what I can tell by looking at them in EASEL. (:0) Brandon Parker ---
**Author:** ![DustinHensley](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex009/user_avatar/community.inventables.com/dustinhensley/32/47136_2.png) [@DustinHensley](https://community.inventables.com/u/DustinHensley)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2018, 2:34am UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/another-crappy-cut/52766/12 "2018-03-19T02:34:04Z")
Machine-\>Advanced-\>Generate G-code-\>Export G-code ---
**Author:** ![NeilFerreri1](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex009/user_avatar/community.inventables.com/neilferreri1/32/84403_2.png) [@NeilFerreri1](https://community.inventables.com/u/NeilFerreri1)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2018, 2:41am UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/another-crappy-cut/52766/13 "2018-03-19T02:41:30Z")
From above. > [@NeilFerreri1](#): > > Can you export the gcode and share it here? > > Machine–\>Advanced–\>Generate Gcode–\>Export ---
**Author:** ![PaulRinguette](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/90db22/32.png) [@PaulRinguette](https://community.inventables.com/u/PaulRinguette)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2018, 2:47am UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/another-crappy-cut/52766/14 "2018-03-19T02:47:16Z")
I did. ---
**Author:** ![PaulRinguette](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/90db22/32.png) [@PaulRinguette](https://community.inventables.com/u/PaulRinguette)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2018, 2:53am UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/another-crappy-cut/52766/15 "2018-03-19T02:53:01Z")
NeilFerreri1 Uploading both but the issue surfaced during the detail cut. Thanks! [Guinness\_detail.nc](https://cdck-file-uploads-canada1.s3.dualstack.ca-central-1.amazonaws.com/flex009/uploads/inventables/original/3X/a/f/afa35432642518cb9f9c5f64ac5eeb488ed95ad6.nc) (7.1 MB) [Guinness\_roughing.nc](https://cdck-file-uploads-canada1.s3.dualstack.ca-central-1.amazonaws.com/flex009/uploads/inventables/original/3X/f/2/f25c0ca72dc2cda85e239d8956849046d0807774.nc) (3.8 MB) ---
**Author:** ![PaulRinguette](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/90db22/32.png) [@PaulRinguette](https://community.inventables.com/u/PaulRinguette)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2018, 3:00am UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/another-crappy-cut/52766/16 "2018-03-19T03:00:14Z")
I used the Z probe as part of the cut, ---
**Author:** ![PaulRinguette](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/90db22/32.png) [@PaulRinguette](https://community.inventables.com/u/PaulRinguette)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2018, 3:00am UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/another-crappy-cut/52766/17 "2018-03-19T03:00:57Z")
I used 1/8 downcut for the rough and the 60 degree vbit for the detail. I used the Z-Probe before each cut. ---
**Author:** ![NeilFerreri1](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex009/user_avatar/community.inventables.com/neilferreri1/32/84403_2.png) [@NeilFerreri1](https://community.inventables.com/u/NeilFerreri1)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2018, 3:07am UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/another-crappy-cut/52766/18 "2018-03-19T03:07:31Z")
Line 72823. Goes from the 7 to the 6 at a depth of 0.2", your max cut depth. I think this is a bug. That should be a travel move, and I think the bit should raise to 0.15" Technically, if your Z was **perfectly** zeroed, that line wouldn’t exist as it was roughed to 0.2" with the roughing pass. > [@PaulRinguette](#): > > I used the Z-Probe before each cut. Your V-carve is a decent amount deeper (not in the code). Where are you probing? I’ve seen this before, and it looks like there are other threads popping up with the same issue. Contact support. ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex009/uploads/inventables/original/3X/b/2/b2b9aceef3ffeff8180be5fe537bded9a8c6dc7f.png) ---
**Author:** ![PaulRinguette](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/90db22/32.png) [@PaulRinguette](https://community.inventables.com/u/PaulRinguette)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2018, 3:15am UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/another-crappy-cut/52766/19 "2018-03-19T03:15:36Z")
Neil, thanks! What are you using to see what you saw? I’m quickly, very quickly, losing patience with Easel Pro. ---
**Author:** ![PaulRinguette](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/90db22/32.png) [@PaulRinguette](https://community.inventables.com/u/PaulRinguette)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2018, 3:16am UTC](https://community.inventables.com/t/another-crappy-cut/52766/20 "2018-03-19T03:16:11Z")
Also, I z-probed prior to both cuts. [Next page](https://community.inventables.com/t/another-crappy-cut/52766.md?page=2)